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Тема: Update for most popular (standard mode and terrtiroy war).Reduction for Silvers,gold

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    Update for most popular (standard mode and terrtiroy war).Reduction for Silvers,gold

    Hello Ground war tanks Me (1966 GATE-13-)and Ultimatum we are the leaders from the CORP/legion GUARDIANS.
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    After 27 days gaming on the russian server, we see many changes here some good, some bad. Me and ultimatum we analyze the game with statistics from all the tanks tier 10 or lower or GOLD or CORP.
    We understand the policy from (Ground war tanks Administration Team) we need to pay real money to recieve privileges like proaccount2 for VIP days, more xp,you can shoot with gold ammo etc...
    We have already spend over 1000 € from my corp, to get the gold tanks from the roulette to get aces crews and gold tanks to make silvers faster. But with this policy we cant play territory war, because we have 3 gold tanks over power FV4030/4 , FV214 conqueror and Object140, with unbelievable statistics. With all this policy we have seriously problem in game, all the new players they cant upgrade 1 new line, without VIP and get vehicle xp fast or slow. They going all to buy 1 gold tank from the roulette and thats it we are ready to fight. They leave all the simple lines from the tanks, because its difficult here to upgrade 1 line with gold tanks enemys.This is bad because all the players going to buy 1 gold tank only, and play every day with that. All the players after 2-3 months they will bored and they will leave the game. You cant play territory war because all the enemys they play 1 typical war with 10 object140 vs 10 object140 this is 1 battle for 2 minutes gaming without strategy without nothing only GOLD tanks. The second bad is with the tier 8 gold tanks Mammut,object701,T34 they cant make 110 000 silver per battle this is bad in 2 months we will have 200 000 000 millions and what after that?

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    All players new or old the will bored the game for sure, all the tiers 7-8-9 tanks they cant upgrade a simple line for example if you play a simple category with regular tier tanks level 7-8 you will lose because you have enemys 7/10 slots with gold tanks, after that how you can win if they shoot only gold ammo and after that earn a tone of silvers?? . This is bad.So we propose 1st of all to cut from all the tier 8 tanks 20% to earn silver so easy. with this you will need more games with tier 8 to get your silver you kept your industry alive for many years, all the new or old players with a simple line / category they can play to get xp, all the tier 8 gold tanks Mammut,object701,T34 , they need to rise the silvers from the gold ammo from 5000 to 10 000 per ammo. The purpose from the GOLD tanks is to make silver faster with low repair and low cost for ammo and for fun game. So with this change we gives the oportunity for all the new and old members to have purpose to play again new lines / categorys from all the tanks, because if the gold tanks shoot gold ammo, if they win the game they will lose a tone of silvers if the use gold ammo 10 bullets is 100 000 silver, if you want to play only a gold tank with gold ammo for fun its ok... you can play but you cant take silvers from that you will lose all the silvers, you need to prove if you are a good player to shoot your enemy with 180 penetrate and not with 300 penetrate, you need to show us you have strategy on the game to win and not for example(we are a premade/team with 5 GOLD tanks we shoots all with GOLD ammo and thats it we win!!!!). We need longer time battles to use strategy on the game not a yolo game when we start the battle and run like a crazy with gold tanks and gold ammo and kill all the enemys this is wrong.second we propose for the territory war to have a limited places for the GOLD tanks, what i mean , from the 10 players you can brieng within the team only 2 GOLD tanks choose what you want FV4030 for attack ? you Need FV214 conqueror for defence ? you need object140 for attack ? you can choose only 2 from them not 10 tanks only gold. Next we need from all GOLD tanks tier 10 to rise the silvers for the gold ammo they need to lose many silvers per/battle , if they want to play on the standard mode only with gold (because thats happen now on the game)



    for example if you shoot 10 or 15 GOLD ammo you will lose 100 000 or 150 000 silvers/per battle after that you will need 20 games to play and collect silvers again with tier 8 tanks. We need to cut from all the GOLD tanks the statistics they cant be a good from the regular tanks and corp tanks. For example We propose the gold tanks to be a little better from the regular tanks and little bad from the CORP tanks, with that we will have better battles on the standard mode with the regular tanks with more strategy, we give the oportunity for all the members from 1 corp / legion to donate money every day to take the CORP tanks , (more money for the company). The corp tanks is the best category on the game and the territory war is the best mode on the game, so If we do that we will have more donates from the corps with gold to buy a corp tanks, we will have better battles with strategy and good fights from all, they will spend more money to donates because you need every day to donate gold to bid for your entry on the map and play every day lose/win/draw. We propose for example 1st of all regular tanks-(good tanks), gold tanks -(very good tanks), and after that CORP tanks -(very very good tanks), this is a good line... we gives the opportunity to all to buy a gold tank and donate gold to the corps to buy a corp tank and to play a regular line to get tier 10 tanks easy. We need also to nerf the statistics from the 3 gold tanks For example reload,view range, half damage, big repair, rise the silvers for the gold ammo for tier 10 tanks GOLD or not 15 000 silver per/ammo so when you play with tier 10 GOLD tank and shoot only with GOLD ammo you will lose 200 000 or 300 000 per game, we propose for the FV 4030/4 and object140 to be a good gold tank than a leopard/su 152 taran/ M48 patton/T55 but not from the CORP tanks chatillon pt/AMX30/Mars15/object280/FV4005. he needs to be on the middle little better from the regular tanks and little bad from the CORP tanks For example we need to be based like Chatillon pt/Mars15/AMX30 and after that based with the regular tanks, we need to give the oportunity to all the corp tanks to play more often on the territory war.For exampleThe FV4030 he needs to cut the view range, he needs to cut the damage if you want to be a fast tank you need to shoot with 750 damage, he is already a good tank with a strong turret, the FV214 conqueror he needs to shoot with big reload like 15 seconds (with ace crew) and make less damage, he is a heavy tank,For example the object 140 he needs to take more damage on the tracks so you can stop it, he is a medium tank not a heavy tank like now with armor like a maus tank... give a little better statistics to the gold tanks from the regular tanks but not from the corp tanks. Also For example we need to fix from all the tier 10 tanks regular/gold/corp when you target 1 potition with heavy armor and shoot with HE, 1 tank with good armor like maus, he cant take a 1500 damage, you need to reduce the damage when you shoot a heavy tank with HE.This is my opinion after my big analyze for the game, i have already all the tier 10 tanks. We need changes here for the better cost . I am waiting for the answers not only me all the players waiting for answers. i hope to update this issues fast beause we will bored the game soon because we play only standard mode 1 month now... and we cant play a territory war, we dont want to lose gold its a real money for us. We dont have future here if we play only a sdandard mode. If you want help to explain you in detail all the statistics from the gold tanks,i am always here to help you.

    Best regards Teo Asus Levidiotis aka 1966GATE-13- to the Administration Team.
    Последний раз редактировалось 1966GATE-13-; 15.05.2016 в 01:53.
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    I am agreed gate, we cannt enter the teritory with tank tier 10 we have. They will slaughter us as fast as we start...... too many people use objek140 and FV....

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    I'd like to have "push other tank(s)" feature added back in the game. I'd like to be able ram the other tank to disrupt its aim.
    Another issue I have is invisible tank. If a tank is not moving, it's invisible even if you're within 50m of it. It becomes visible after it fired its gun. This feature makes the players play with a defensive style, aka. camper. This makes the game boring and can loose a lot of players in the long run.
    Последний раз редактировалось Оттоман; 14.05.2016 в 23:21.

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    Silver earnings from battles aren't too high for me (maybe on t8 tanks are little too high, but on T-30 earnings are too low - max 10k). Some players don't have much time to play game (job, school, etc.) and they can't improve their accounts fast as players who play game few hours per day. If something must be changed, i'd love to see fixed "Shot Trajectory" bug. For much players marking this option in graphic settings freezes gazme for few seconds when they are shooting. If someone plays with tank with clip gun, it's really impossible to play.
    -Second thing to change are payment methods (but we talked about it under poll in facebook group).
    -Third thing is decreasing difficulty on defence mode for lower tier tanks. I never survived more than 9 vaves playing with much t5's (E-10, PzIV, M4 Sherman).
    -Forth thing is about defence mode too. In much battles one of 5 players gets disconnected and game don't allow him to come back to the game. It's famous bug.
    -Fifth thing is roulette script. I have played roulette with silver draws 20 times, and i won nothing else than Exp, Silver, not important accesories or supplies. (One time i won 500 gold, but i guess that was a thing to encourage me to spend gold on roulette). I never won VIP status, any tank, crew or important accesories (like bore pressure, fiberscope II or Reload CD)
    Последний раз редактировалось Frank_Lampard_8; 15.05.2016 в 11:05.

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    I think too that the balance of the game is ruined by golden tanks, golden ammo, corp tanks.

    Here:

    Buy gold -> Buy vip -> Buy golden T8 -> play roulette -> make silver and xp with T8 -> win T10 at roulette -> buy gold -> use silver and gold for loyalty points, use gold to change T8 exp to free exp, research Corp tank.


    No need to research anything from tech tree and you lose all the interest in experiencing those tanks.

    In my opinion:

    1) you should buy golden ammo ONLY with gold and not with silver.

    2) repair of golden tanks should more expensive, you gain many silvers if you play in a good way, otherwise not.

    3) Territories in TW should be capped in different way, the ones with less income capped max T5 and then the most valuable T7 -T8 -T9 - T10, to prevent using only golden or corps T10.

    4) A mode with only normal tanks, to have fun using and experiencing them.

    5) Rebalance T44 (less damage, not like an IS), rebalance T26E4 (less front armor), ecc ecc....


    Последний раз редактировалось SDF2; 15.05.2016 в 15:08.

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    Silver earnings from battles aren't too high for me (maybe on t8 tanks are little too high, but on T-30 earnings are too low - max 10k). Some players don't have much time to play game (job, school, etc.) and they can't improve their accounts fast as players who play game few hours per day. If something must be changed, i'd love to see fixed "Shot Trajectory" bug. For much players marking this option in graphic settings freezes gazme for few seconds when they are shooting. If someone plays with tank with clip gun, it's really impossible to play.
    -Second thing to change are payment methods (but we talked about it under poll in facebook group).
    -Third thing is decreasing difficulty on defence mode for lower tier tanks. I never survived more than 9 vaves playing with much t5's (E-10, PzIV, M4 Sherman).
    -Forth thing is about defence mode too. In much battles one of 5 players gets disconnected and game don't allow him to come back to the game. It's famous bug.
    -Fifth thing is roulette script. I have played roulette with silver draws 20 times, and i won nothing else than Exp, Silver, not important accesories or supplies. (One time i won 500 gold, but i guess that was a thing to encourage me to spend gold on roulette). I never won VIP status, any tank, crew or important accesories (like bore pressure, fiberscope II or Reload CD)
    Just unlucky, with 11 tries i got 2 golden tanks (Ram MK2 and Lowe), 1 crew (t34-85 dedicated), 500 gold, 2 times 3 days of vip, 1 modification for tiger2, about accessories i won only normal ones and for low tiers....
    Последний раз редактировалось SDF2; 15.05.2016 в 15:20.

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    It seems so simple,gold tanks are fully promoted,if you own an object 701 or anything like,object 140,fv 4030 or a fv qonqueror...no need for something else.
    Normal tanks are completely useless when for example...fv 4030 runs with 55km, shoots average dmg 1500,11,8 rld and 2.6 aim and ofc gold ammo is basic and easy for all (you dont loose silver...gold tank)
    Imagine a t96 or a maus that anybody can penetrate them,just run and shoot.In this way, game is unbalance and leads to a boring style gameplay.
    Personally i can buy all the gold tanks and play but how long.Old school Russian players show me some interesting videos about TW...well, 2 mins ''yolo'' attack with object 140 only
    is not so interesting to me...imagine this happening every day.There is an obvious big gap and i hope developers will work with us for better results.
    Best regards to the working team!!!
    Последний раз редактировалось ulttimatum; 15.05.2016 в 22:05.

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    This is not an attack, any moderator that wishes to ban me should READ the post first. This is an analysis of this "IDEA".
    Now this idea is proposed by a person that fully represents GWT Russian, it is a person that is supposed to understand the game mechanics better the the rest of us, and PROMOTE the game to everyone that is new to it. This is not the case here, in this case, this person Gate, has no idea how GAME MECHANICS working with GWT.
    So i will explain to him, with your permission WHY the GOLD TANKS are being promoted, and WHY it is BEST for any player that loves the game as much as I do, to buy a gold tank and invest (i might say a SMALL amount) money into this game.
    Is is actually QUITE SIMPLE! This game must make REVENUE, in order to PAY its employees, electrical bills, programmers! YES! they NEED TO PAY PROGRAMMERS! Now ALL of this guys that need to EAT and SLEEP and HAVE A LIFE, need some kind of remuneration, AND I AM HAPPY! to be a small part of their monthly salary! That is because, being DAY OR NIGHT, they WORK! for MY FUN!

    And that is why, my friends! GOLD TANKS are a MUST in this game (and in any! game we have PREMIUM CONTENT). Because PREMIUM CONTENT pays for the salary of all this people that make our lives fun!
    And that is why this IDEA thread should be deleted, and replaced with MY! ideea, which is :
    Players! if you like this game, nobody is forcing you to pay for your tanks, nobody is forcing you to PLAY this game, but if you REALLY like this game, LEARN the game MECHANICS. Learn about Accesorries, Learn about MODULES! Learn about WEAK spots on the enemy tanks! That is how you will be able to become an ACE in this game, and you will NOT NEED! a gold tank. After that, if you still love the game as any member in Sons Of Dracula corp does, and want to play in Territory Wars... INVEST IN THIS GAME! BUY PREMIUM CONTENT!
    Support the game developers by investing as much as you can into a GOLD TANK!
    The advantages are : Plenty of silver. That;s it! By this time you will know how to pay with ANY tank on this game, as an ACE.
    PREMIUM CONTENT is a FEATURE in ANY ONLINE GAME ON THE INTERNET! We pay to support the developers, and in turn, they build us MORE CONTENT for us to play and have fun with. For example all those EVENTS where they give FREE GOLD, FREE TANKS, FREE STUFF. Another example is NEW TANKS, NEW MAPS! NEW mods for playing.

    With all this said, i hope that my REALISM got through, and now you people can understand why this thread is... bad. And the person that started it, although a member of the FORUM! moderation team, is a complete noob (noob = newbie = player that does not know the game mechanics).

    Now if i deserve a ban for being a REALIST, i will embrace it as a MAN! and i will not abuse the FREE RIGHT TO PLAY this game, as this person (gate) has done in the past.

    Sorry for the long post!

    ~edit~

    here is the DEFINITION of PREMIUM CONTENT

    Premium content is a type of digital content that may be accessed for a fee, and is usually of higher quality or more desirable than free content. It is mainly a digital marketing strategy that is used to differentiate between standard (free) marketing content and exceptionally informative content.
    Последний раз редактировалось Zeflemel; 15.05.2016 в 23:43. Причина: PREMIUM CONTENT definition

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    This is how the game is now. You put one time gold you take gold tank and you don’t have to develop any other tank anymore because the gold bullets are not expensive and you can kill everyone! My opinion the gold ammo must be more expensive. So you are good player and collect money with normal ammo or you kill with gold ammo and pay for it! The gold tanks must be better of course from the other tanks but not too much so you will want to develop other tanks.

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    TW only 2 min..... adorabble. We play TW in server NA with completly time but the result is DRAW.....
    Последний раз редактировалось -ThunderCats-; 16.05.2016 в 07:29.

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